A threat to religious freedom?
In a story reported in the Longview News-Journal out of Longview, Texas, a Texas man, DeWitt Thomas, has filed a lawsuit in federal court, alleging that his civil rights were violated when a grocery store allowed a black cashier to handle his groceries, despite his requests that no “negroidal” persons touch them.”
In the lawsuit, Thomas explained he meant a black person when he used the term ‘negroidal.’”
*blink*
When I first read this story, my first instinct was to make fun of it. And perhaps that’s still the best response. It’s one of those stories that makes you keep checking the top of the page to make sure you aren’t reading The Onion.
Thomas insisted that he is not racist or ignorant, but religious. He claimed his religious beliefs are based on Vedism, which he said encompasses Hinduism.
Oh. Glad he cleared that up.
Quoting the Longview News-Journal:
“‘My question is, why after I told them how I felt and that it was against my creed did this negroid try to impress himself upon me and try to handle my groceries again,’ Thomas said.”
He went on to explain other tenets of his creed.
“‘White people are to be protected under the civil rights law just as anyone else,’ Thomas said. ‘It would be the same as if you asked that a congoid (a person from west/central Africa) not touch your food.’”
Let’s not talk about all the ‘oids that likely touched all of Thomas’ food before it made its way to the checkout line.
Thomas is right, of course, that our nation’s civil rights laws protect whites as well as persons of color. However – and I could be wrong – but I’m pretty sure neither the Constitution nor civil rights laws allow a person to violate the civil rights of another person in the name of exercising religious freedom.
Whatever Thomas may call it, his beliefs echo the white supremacist beliefs of Wade Michael Page, the gunman who murdered worshipers at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Racism that rises to that level is not a joke, it’s a sickness.
It’s a sickness that allows people to see the “other” as the enemy, and to feel it is their duty, in service of their race and their country, to destroy the people they see as threats.
It would be very easy to simply laugh and dismiss Thomas as a lone nutjob who needs to learn how to bag his own groceries.
Except that lone nutjobs have been responsible for an awful lot of carnage and death lately.
August 14th, 2012
I wonder if the authorities start to put him under a watch or flag him when he buys guns/ammunition. Just a thought.
August 14th, 2012
They won’t. According to an article in the New Yorker about the Sikh temple shooting (I linked to it in the post), Homeland Security is not looking at these extremists. But we’ll be shocked and saddened by the next mass shooting.
August 14th, 2012
Hiding behind your “religion” to be racist? How cowardly…
August 14th, 2012
This should wake us up and scare the hell out of us…really, if Homeland Security doesn’t have people like this on their “top priority” list, then we are in trouble. Watching everyone else but the people in your backyard.
August 14th, 2012
Carolyn wrote:
Thomas is right, of course, that our nation’s civil rights laws protect whites as well as persons of color.
Our civil rights laws are supposed to protect whites as well as blacks and others, but that is not how the laws are working out in practice.
Whatever Thomas may call it, his beliefs echo the white supremacist beliefs of Wade Michael Page, the gunman who murdered worshipers at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Racism that rises to that level is not a joke, it’s a sickness.
Your line of reasoning here is specious. Racism is not a slippery slope. One can, in fact, be quite racist and not murder the objects of one’s bigotry. Racism is not a sickness. Racism is just another aspect of human nature. It is a rather dark aspect of human nature, but an essential element nonetheless. Most people on earth are racists in that we prefer our own. This is not necessarily a good thing, but this is how races ultimately survive.
August 24th, 2012
It is hard to remain calm in the face of hatred and lunacy such as this, but I try to take a more serene outlook, if I can. Like the undertaker eyeing a visitor (“Linger long, but go you must.”), I take some small comfort from knowing that these nut bags and tea bags are dying, and they know it too. That’s what is making them act out so desperately. They can see the end coming for them.
America is changing; substantially, fundamentally, irrevocably. One birthday at a time. The demographics of the United States will never ever be what it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago. Our politics are changing as well as our culture. And that’s a very, very good thing.
The cornered animal won’t go without a loud, angry, vicious, desperate fight. But make no mistake, it’s days are counted. We have gone a few millennia on this earth where separate races could preserve separate tribes, where we lived in our own discreet pockets. That time is passed. We inhabit the globe now. We are everywhere. And the survival of humanity depends upon our willingness to abandon the survival of races as an anthropological imperative.
August 25th, 2012
Mark Robinson,
Here’s the thing. Racism is not like the bubonic plague. It didn’t just pop out of nowhere. Kinship affinity is a very well known and pervasive behavior pattern. The notion that racism will die with the current generation of racists is sheer fantasy. The human animal is inherently racist. This is not to say that irrational forms of racism don’t exist. They do. But so long as families exist (and a race is just a very extended family that inbreeds to some extent), then races and racism will exist because people quite naturally prefer their family members to others.
Blacks Americans will rue the day that whites become a minority in this country. Currently, white racism isn’t a serious impediment to black progress. But immigration IS a significant barrier to our continued progress. The negative aspects of immigration have hit us hardest and will continue to hit us hardest. From black/Hispanic warfare, diminished educational opportunities for blacks due to resources being diverted to ESL classes, competition over Affirmative Action, to diminished political clout due to demographic change, we are definitely getting the worst of it. Without a white majority, the US political and social systems will turn into one great big racial free-for-all. That isn’t going to be pretty. I sure do wish black people would come to grips with this reality. We are going to miss white people when they are gone.
August 25th, 2012
RR,
For starters, why don’t you join the rest of us in open, civilized discussion by signing your real name to your comments?
1. Comparing kinship affinity with racism is like equating having a crush on someone, with stalking. Directionally they may bear similarities, but no reasonable person would confuse the two. Unless, of course, that person were trying to rationalize racism as normal, inevitable behavior.
2. Humans are inherently tribal, not racist. The former is inwardly directly and not a pathology. The latter is outwardly directed and most definitely is considered a pathology by most civilized societies.
3. “Irrational forms of racism…” Perhaps it’s just me, but that sounds an awful lot like the kind of thinking behind the construct of “legitimate rape.” (Are you two guys related, by chance?) There is no such thing as a “rational” form of racism. Unless, of course, you’re trying to rationalize racism as normal behavior.
4. “Blacks Americans will rue the day that whites become a minority in this country.” Wow. I really would like to meet you so that I can understand the kind of person that could express that thought. I honestly would like to give a thoughtful response to that suggestion, but I must simply pass. Words fail me.
5. “Currently, white racism isn’t a serious impediment to black progress.”
Ditto.
6. Are you really suggesting that white racism is just a nuisance compared to the real problems of Hispanic immigration? Yes, of course, it’s a zero sum gain. Let’s pit one minority group against another to fight it out for the scraps at the table. First of all, there’s no “Black/Hispanic Warfare”, as much as you might wish to promote the idea. Second, the only reason there are “diminished educational opportunities” is because conservative white Republicans keep cutting education funding. (Resources diverted to ESL classes? That’s laugh out loud funny and laugh out loud racist.)
7. “Without a white majority, the US political and social systems will turn into one great big racial free-for-all.” That is the most paternalistic, narcisistic, ignorant, racist pile of hooey. Dear RR, you are a living, breathing, ranting example of the cornered, terrified, endangered species that I described above. The world offers you a choice; you can either live out your days angry, bitter and afraid, growing increasingly alienated from the world around you. Or you can open your mind and open your heart and recognize that every living thing changes, and change can be good for you.
August 25th, 2012
Dear Mark, thank you for expressing so eloquently what I was too annoyed to say. Unfortunately, RR’s latest comments are typical of what he has had to offer in commenting on this blog. Defending racists and racism, criticizing female sexuality, insisting that immigration is the biggest scourge on our society, etc. It’s a tired shtick. I once disinvited RR from commenting here. I don’t know why he chose to return with the same irritating rhetoric, but I am sick of it. RR, you are not here to debate, you are here to inflame. My readers don’t appreciate it, and neither do I.
August 26th, 2012
Mark Robinson,
Why do you need to know my name? How do I know your name is really Mark Robinson? Maybe if you posted a copy of your birth certificate and your social security number, I might be inclined to believe that you are Mark Robinson, but for my purposes your name doesn’t matter. Your race doesn’t matter. Your ideas and how well you express those ideas are what really matters to me.
Your analogizing kinship affinity with romantic crushes and stalking is almost apt, but ultimately misses the mark. A crush can manifest itself as stalking behavior, but so can unrelenting hatred. Kinship affinity on the other hand, always manifests itself as racism/tribalism because racism and tribalism are both intimately connected to notions of relatedness, from which kinship affinity springs. Humans have a tendency to favor those to whom we are most closely related. Given this reality, tribalism is just racism scaled upward.
Neither tribalism nor racism are necessarily pathological. Let’s look at a concrete example: Marriage. Jews are more likely to marry other Jews compared to other white ethnics. American blacks are more likely to marry other American blacks. I don’t see anything wrong with Jews seeking marrying other Jews for the good of the tribe or blacks marrying other blacks for the good of the tribe/race. The reality is that these preferences are manifestations of inherent tribal/racial preferences and they are examples of fundamental bigotry, pure and simple, but they are not pathological. I happen to like Jews and blacks. I’m happy that the tribalism and racism of each group exists because it allows the groups to exist. If Jews and blacks didn’t have these preferences, they would cease to exist. I would miss Jews and blacks if they were gone. Of course, I would miss blacks more because I am black, which is tribalist and racist of me, but what can I say. I am a tribalist and a racist (black Americans are both a tribe and a race) but not pathological in my beliefs, that is to say that my belief system is not irrationally biased. DeWitt Thomas is being irrational. As Carolyn pointed out, any number of blacks could have touched his food during the packing, transport and product placement processes. His belief system was irrational and the way he went about observing his belief system was also irrational (if he really didn’t want blacks to touch his food, he could have grown his own). Even the most hardened white racists of the Old South allowed blacks to touch their food.
So Dewitt Thomas’ racism was irrational. Now if DeWitt Thomas refused to live in a mostly black neighborhood because he feared crime, that would be more plausible and rational. There are degrees of racism and, in my opinion, degrees of rape. Todd Atkin’s use of the phrase “legitimate rape” connotes a continuum of rape. The phrase to me includes instances of like that of Genarlo Wilson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia
where the 17 year old Wilson was convicted of child molestation because he had consensual oral sex with a 15 year old girl and cases like that of Brian Banks:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/05/31/brian-banks-exonerated-nfl-football-tryouts
who had consensual sex with a black girl who then claimed she was raped to horrific cases of rape like the Knoxville Massacre:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
You wrote:
I really would like to meet you so that I can understand the kind of person that could express that thought.
That’s great! If you live in the NY tri-state area, we can meet! Or, if not, we can talk via Skype or email. You can contact me at rrsacct@gmail.com. I look forward to hearing from you.
I honestly would like to give a thoughtful response to that suggestion, but I must simply pass. Words fail me.
Why do words fail you? Why would words ever fail you? Have my comments evoked such an emotional response from you that your powers of expression have been overwhelmed? Damn! I didn’t know I had it like that! Of course, I know I don’t have it like that. You just seem disinclined to talk about reality, which I can understand. Maybe you will be more comfortable talking about this issue face to face or through some other medium. I would love to hear from you. I hope you’re not just frontin’! I hate frontin’ Negroes!
Are you really suggesting that white racism is just a nuisance compared to the real problems of Hispanic immigration?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Whites are not actively pitting blacks against Hispanics. These tensions have arisen quite apart from the goals of the ruling elite. And Hispanics are significantly more racist than whites.
First of all, there’s no “Black/Hispanic Warfare”
I don’t know what planet you’ve been living on, but you clearly don’t live on Planet USA. There is open warfare between blacks and Hispanics in some parts of the country. If the link doesn’t work, just google “black hispanic gang wars”
Second, the only reason there are “diminished educational opportunities” is because conservative white Republicans keep cutting education funding.
Is that right? I don’t think so. Deep cuts to education spending have been made in California, a state in which the legistlature and the governorship are both controlled by Democrats. The education system is clearly a big racket. I only wish somebody, anybody, would be more realistic with what can actually be achieved through educational funding.
That’s laugh out loud funny and laugh out loud racist.
How? I know I am overwhelming you here, but could you be more specific? Could you cite some facts to buttress you points?
That is the most paternalistic, narcisistic, ignorant, racist pile of hooey.
Again, could you show me how I’m being paternalistic, narcissistic, ignorant and racist? I don’t mind you characterizing my comments in these terms, but I would prefer it if you would actually bother to rebut my assertions rather than just name call.
change can be good for you
Perhaps, but change can also be really bad. Changing racial demographics was really bad for native American tribes. I’m told that climate change is really bad. The economy has changed….for the worse. Basketball has changed…nobody practices the fundamentals anymore….which is bad. Change per se is not necessarily good. Some things ain’t broke, so why are we so hell bent on fixing them.
August 26th, 2012
Carolyn,
If I have offended you, I apologize. My goal here is not to inflame passions but to expose you and others to dissenting opinion. I don’t think any of the remarks I have made on your blog constitute a defense of racism or attacks on female sexuality. What I have attempted to do here is to show that there are two sides to every argument. Black people and women (especially black women) have the tendency to view themselves as victims of white/male schemes. I have news for you: whites and men aren’t that clever. Blacks and women (especially black women) have agency. They are not the playthings of omnipotent white men. You have stated repeatedly that women have the right to express their sexuality anyway they see fit. I agree with you. Women do have the right to free sexual expression, but they have to also be adult enough to realize that certain aspects of that expression might have negative consequences for them. Blacks complain about the high rates of incarceration of black men, but completely ignore the fact that we freely commit a disproportionately large amount of crime (and note that the bulk of the convictions are not drug related). Complaining about the DeWitt Thomases of the world is not going to decrease our crime or illegitimacy rates. What is so outrageous about this statement?
If bright black women like yourself refuse to recognize their own agency, how do you expect average black women to do so?
August 26th, 2012
Dear RR,
I am disappointed that you have chosen not to accept my invitation for greater transparency by communicating via your real name, but that is your right, of course.
Your goal is to expose Carolyn and others (such as me, perhaps) to dissenting opinion. Really? Do you honestly believe that without you, we would have no meaningful exposure to a diversity of points of view? I know that you espouse a philosophy that people stick with other people who are just like themselves, however, you might be surprised to learn that smart many people (and, my goodness, black people too) are intellectually curious and seek out ideas and arguments different from their own.
Perhaps many of the people you know tend to “stick with their own kind” and therefore don’t often hear different points of view. I couldn’t say. Personally, I would find that very boring.
Likewise, I am certain that Carolyn is immensely grateful that you have explained that black women really do have agency. It’s pretty common that bright women like her tend not to see these things.
August 27th, 2012
Mark Robinson,
My response to you was stuck in moderation for some reason. Here it is in segmented fashion:
Why do you need to know my name? How do I know your name is really Mark Robinson? Maybe if you posted a copy of your birth certificate and your social security number, I might be inclined to believe that you are Mark Robinson, but for my purposes your name doesn’t matter. Your race doesn’t matter. Your ideas and how well you express those ideas are what really matters to me.
Your analogizing kinship affinity with romantic crushes and stalking is almost apt, but ultimately misses the mark. A crush can manifest itself as stalking behavior, but so can unrelenting hatred. Kinship affinity on the other hand, always manifests itself as racism/tribalism because racism and tribalism are both intimately connected to notions of relatedness, from which kinship affinity springs. Humans have a tendency to favor those to whom we are most closely related. Given this reality, tribalism is just racism scaled upward.
Neither tribalism nor racism are necessarily pathological. Let’s look at a concrete example: Marriage. Jews are more likely to marry other Jews compared to other white ethnics. American blacks are more likely to marry other American blacks. I don’t see anything wrong with Jews seeking marrying other Jews for the good of the tribe or blacks marrying other blacks for the good of the tribe/race. The reality is that these preferences are manifestations of inherent tribal/racial preferences and they are examples of fundamental bigotry, pure and simple, but they are not pathological. I happen to like Jews and blacks. I’m happy that the tribalism and racism of each group exists because it allows the groups to exist. If Jews and blacks didn’t have these preferences, they would cease to exist. I would miss Jews and blacks if they were gone. Of course, I would miss blacks more because I am black, which is tribalist and racist of me, but what can I say. I am a tribalist and a racist (black Americans are both a tribe and a race) but not pathological in my beliefs, that is to say that my belief system is not irrationally biased. DeWitt Thomas is being irrational. As Carolyn pointed out, any number of blacks could have touched his food during the packing, transport and product placement processes. His belief system was irrational and the way he went about observing his belief system was also irrational (if he really didn’t want blacks to touch his food, he could have grown his own). Even the most hardened white racists of the Old South allowed blacks to touch their food.
August 27th, 2012
So Dewitt Thomas’ racism was irrational. Now if DeWitt Thomas refused to live in a mostly black neighborhood because he feared crime, that would be more plausible and rational. There are degrees of racism and, in my opinion, degrees of rape. Todd Atkin’s use of the phrase “legitimate rape” connotes a continuum of rape. The phrase to me includes instances of like that of Genarlo Wilson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia
where the 17 year old Wilson was convicted of child molestation because he had consensual oral sex with a 15 year old girl
August 27th, 2012
and cases like that of Brian Banks:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/05/31/brian-banks-exonerated-nfl-football-tryouts
who had consensual sex with a black girl who then claimed she was raped to horrific cases of rape like the Knoxville Massacre:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
So, rape does in fact run the spectrum and certain types of rape are more believiable, legitimate if you will, than others.
August 27th, 2012
and cases like that of Brian Banks:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/05/31/brian-banks-exonerated-nfl-football-tryouts
who had consensual sex with a black girl who then claimed she was raped
August 27th, 2012
So Dewitt Thomas’ racism was irrational. Now if DeWitt Thomas refused to live in a mostly black neighborhood because he feared crime, that would be more plausible and rational. There are degrees of racism and, in my opinion, degrees of rape. Todd Atkin’s use of the phrase “legitimate rape” connotes a continuum of rape. The phrase to me includes instances of like that of Genarlo Wilson, where the 17 year old Wilson was convicted of child molestation because he had consensual oral sex with a 15 year old girl and cases like that of Brian Banks who had consensual sex with a black girl who then claimed she was raped to horrific cases of rape like the Knoxville Massacre. So, rape does in fact run the spectrum and certain types of rape are more believiable, legitimate if you will, than others.
August 27th, 2012
Mark Robinson wrote:
I really would like to meet you so that I can understand the kind of person that could express that thought.
That’s great! If you live in the NY tri-state area, we can meet! Or, if not, we can talk via Skype or email. You can contact me at rrsacct@gmail.com. I look forward to hearing from you.
I honestly would like to give a thoughtful response to that suggestion, but I must simply pass. Words fail me.
Why do words fail you? Why would words ever fail you? Have my comments evoked such an emotional response from you that your powers of expression have been overwhelmed? Damn! I didn’t know I had it like that! Of course, I know I don’t have it like that. You just seem disinclined to talk about reality, which I can understand. Maybe you will be more comfortable talking about this issue face to face or through some other medium. I would love to hear from you. I hope you’re not just frontin’! I hate frontin’ Negroes man!
Are you really suggesting that white racism is just a nuisance compared to the real problems of Hispanic immigration?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Whites are not actively pitting blacks against Hispanics. These tensions have arisen quite apart from the goals of the ruling elite. And Hispanics are significantly more racist than whites.
First of all, there’s no “Black/Hispanic Warfare”
I don’t know what planet you’ve been living on, but you clearly don’t live on Planet USA. There is open warfare between blacks and Hispanics in some parts of the country. Just google “black hispanic gang wars”
Second, the only reason there are “diminished educational opportunities” is because conservative white Republicans keep cutting education funding.
Is that right? I don’t think so. Deep cuts to education spending have been made in California, a state in which the legistlature and the governorship are both controlled by Democrats. The education system is clearly a big racket. I only wish somebody, anybody, would be more realistic with what can actually be achieved through educational funding.
That’s laugh out loud funny and laugh out loud racist.
How? I know I am overwhelming you here, but could you be more specific? Could you cite some facts to buttress you points?
That is the most paternalistic, narcisistic, ignorant, racist pile of hooey.
Again, could you show me how I’m being paternalistic, narcissistic, ignorant and racist? I don’t mind you characterizing my comments in these terms, but I would prefer it if you would actually bother to rebut my assertions rather than just name call.
change can be good for you
Perhaps, but change can also be really bad. Changing racial demographics was really bad for native American tribes. I’m told that climate change is really bad. The economy has changed….for the worse. Basketball has changed…nobody practices the fundamentals anymore….which is bad. Change per se is not necessarily good. Some things ain’t broke, so why are we so hell bent on fixing them.
August 27th, 2012
Mark Robinson wrote
you might be surprised to learn that smart many people (and, my goodness, black people too) are intellectually curious and seek out ideas and arguments different from their own.
I’m glad to hear this. It is reassuring, but my experience has been that many smart people of a certain political inclination limit the areas of intellectual inquiry to subjects they are comfortable with. This is especially true of blacks. If you are willing to engage in unfettered debate regarding racial issues, I salute you and look forward to hearing from you, but my guess is that you will probably be like the rest and will ultimately blame the white man for our self-inflicted problems.
It’s pretty common that bright women like her tend not to see these things.
Yes. As Orwell has written “To see what is in front of one’s face needs a constant struggle.” I know reality can be difficult to accept sometimes, but ignoring reality, in this case pretending that our actions only have positive consequences, only makes matters worse.
August 27th, 2012
Mark Robinson wrote:
I really would like to meet you so that I can understand the kind of person that could express that thought.
That’s great! If you live in the NY tri-state area, we can meet! Or, if not, we can talk via Skype or email. You can contact me at rrsacct at gmail com. I look forward to hearing from you.
I honestly would like to give a thoughtful response to that suggestion, but I must simply pass. Words fail me.
Why do words fail you? Why would words ever fail you? Have my comments evoked such an emotional response from you that your powers of expression have been overwhelmed? Damn! I didn’t know I had it like that! Of course, I know I don’t have it like that. You just seem disinclined to talk about reality, which I can understand. Maybe you will be more comfortable talking about this issue face to face or through some other medium. I would love to hear from you. I hope you’re not just frontin’! I hate frontin’ Negroes man!
Are you really suggesting that white racism is just a nuisance compared to the real problems of Hispanic immigration?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Whites are not actively pitting blacks against Hispanics. These tensions have arisen quite apart from the goals of the ruling elite. And Hispanics are significantly more racist than whites.
First of all, there’s no “Black/Hispanic Warfare”
I don’t know what planet you’ve been living on, but you clearly don’t live on Planet USA. There is open warfare between blacks and Hispanics in some parts of the country. If the link doesn’t work, just google “black hispanic gang wars”
Second, the only reason there are “diminished educational opportunities” is because conservative white Republicans keep cutting education funding.
Is that right? I don’t think so. Deep cuts to education spending have been made in California, a state in which the legislature and the governorship are both controlled by Democrats. The education system is clearly a big racket. I only wish somebody, anybody, would be more realistic with what can actually be achieved through educational funding.
That’s laugh out loud funny and laugh out loud racist.
How? I know I am overwhelming you here, but could you be more specific? Could you cite some facts to buttress you points?
That is the most paternalistic, narcisistic, ignorant, racist pile of hooey.
Again, could you show me how I’m being paternalistic, narcissistic, ignorant and racist? I don’t mind you characterizing my comments in these terms, but I would prefer it if you would actually bother to rebut my assertions rather than just name call.
change can be good for you
Perhaps, but change can also be really bad. Changing racial demographics was really bad for native American tribes. I’m told that climate change is really bad. The economy has changed….for the worse. Basketball has changed…nobody practices the fundamentals anymore….which is bad. Change per se is not necessarily good. Some things ain’t broke, so why are we so hell bent on fixing them.
August 27th, 2012
You wrote:
I really would like to meet you so that I can understand the kind of person that could express that thought.
That’s great! If you live in the NY tri-state area, we can meet! Or, if not, we can talk via Skype or email. You can contact me at rrsacct at gmail com. I look forward to hearing from you.
I honestly would like to give a thoughtful response to that suggestion, but I must simply pass. Words fail me.
Why do words fail you? Why would words ever fail you? Have my comments evoked such an emotional response from you that your powers of expression have been overwhelmed? Damn! I didn’t know I had it like that! Of course, I know I don’t have it like that. You just seem disinclined to talk about reality, which I can understand. Maybe you will be more comfortable talking about this issue face to face or through some other medium. I would love to hear from you. I hope you’re not just frontin’! I hate frontin’ Negroes man!
Are you really suggesting that white racism is just a nuisance compared to the real problems of Hispanic immigration?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Whites are not actively pitting blacks against Hispanics. These tensions have arisen quite apart from the goals of the ruling elite. And Hispanics are significantly more racist than whites.
First of all, there’s no “Black/Hispanic Warfare”
I don’t know what planet you’ve been living on, but you clearly don’t live on Planet USA. There is open warfare between blacks and Hispanics in some parts of the country. If the link doesn’t work, just google “black hispanic gang wars”
Second, the only reason there are “diminished educational opportunities” is because conservative white Republicans keep cutting education funding.
Is that right? I don’t think so. Deep cuts to education spending have been made in California, a state in which the legislature and the governorship are both controlled by Democrats. The education system is clearly a big racket. I only wish somebody, anybody, would be more realistic with what can actually be achieved through educational funding.
That’s laugh out loud funny and laugh out loud racist.
How? I know I am overwhelming you here, but could you be more specific? Could you cite some facts to buttress you points?
That is the most paternalistic, narcisistic, ignorant, racist pile of hooey.
Again, could you show me how I’m being paternalistic, narcissistic, ignorant and racist? I don’t mind you characterizing my comments in these terms, but I would prefer it if you would actually bother to rebut my assertions rather than just name call.
change can be good for you
Perhaps, but change can also be really bad. Changing racial demographics was really bad for native American tribes. I’m told that climate change is really bad. The economy has changed….for the worse. Basketball has changed…nobody practices the fundamentals anymore….which is bad. Change per se is not necessarily good. Some things ain’t broke, so why are we so hell bent on fixing them.